President Trump\u2019s personal lawyer, Rudolph Giuliani, made the comment on \u201cMeet the Press\u201d on Sunday in response to a question about a potential interview by the special counsel.<\/b>
\nFirst, the facts were alternative, Kellyanne Conway, a counselor to President Trump, suggested last year.
And now, Rudolph W. Giuliani, the president\u2019s personal lawyer, said \u201cTruth isn\u2019t truth,\u201d adding his own phrase to memorable \u2014 and sometimes head-scratching \u2014 comments made by those close to the president.
During an interview on Sunday on NBC\u2019s \u201cMeet the Press,\u201d the show\u2019s host, Chuck Todd, asked Mr. Giuliani about Donald F. McGahn II, the White House counsel, who The New York Times reported was cooperating extensively in the special counsel investigation.
Mr. Todd asked how Mr. Giuliani had responded to requests by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, to interview Mr. Trump and whether Mr. Giuliani had delayed the investigation.
Mr. Giuliani replied he would not be rushed into having Mr. Trump testify \u201cso that he gets trapped into perjury.\u201d
\u201cAnd when you tell me that, \u2018You know, he should testify because he\u2019s going to tell the truth and he shouldn\u2019t worry,\u2019 well, that\u2019s so silly because it\u2019s somebody\u2019s version of the truth. Not the truth,\u201d Mr. Giuliani said.
\u201cTruth is truth,\u201d Mr. Todd insisted.
\u201cNo, it isn\u2019t truth. Truth isn\u2019t truth,\u201d Mr. Giuliani said as Mr. Todd leaned his head onto his hand.
\u201cTruth isn\u2019t truth?\u201d Mr. Todd asked, appearing stunned and at one point looking up. \u201cThis is going to become a bad meme.\u201d
\u201cDon\u2019t do this to me,\u201d Mr. Giuliani replied, his hand to his head, mimicking Mr. Todd. \u201cDonald Trump says, \u2018I didn\u2019t talk about Flynn with Comey.\u2019 Comey says, \u2018You did talk about it.\u2019 So tell me what the truth is.\u201d
Mr. Giuliani was alluding to a statement he made on CNN this month that the president never spoke with James Comey, the former F. B. I. director, about ending an investigation into Michael T. Flynn, the fired national security adviser, thus contradicting Mr. Comey.
Mr. Giuliani\u2019s phrase that \u201ctruth isn\u2019t truth\u201d joins Ms. Conway\u2019s assertion in January 2017 that the White House had put forth \u201calternative facts\u201d to ones reported by the news media about the size of Mr. Trump\u2019s inauguration crowd.
Like Mr. Giuliani, Ms. Conway also made her comments on \u201cMeet the Press.\u201d
After the interview on Sunday, Merriam Webster tweeted the definition of \u201ctruth,\u201d while Mr. Comey was more direct, tweeting: \u201cTruth exists and truth matters. Truth has always been the touchstone of our country\u2019s justice system and political life.\u201d<\/p>\n

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