<!--DEBUG:--><!--DEBUG:dc3-united-states-software-in-english-pdf-2--><!--DEBUG:--><!--DEBUG:dc3-united-states-software-in-english-pdf-2--><!--DEBUG-spv-->{"id":1156751,"date":"2018-09-04T00:45:00","date_gmt":"2018-09-03T22:45:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/nhub.news\/?p=1156751"},"modified":"2018-09-04T05:05:40","modified_gmt":"2018-09-04T03:05:40","slug":"adventure-time-showrunner-doesnt-see-the-finale-as-a-happy-ending","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/nhub.news\/ru\/2018\/09\/adventure-time-showrunner-doesnt-see-the-finale-as-a-happy-ending\/","title":{"rendered":"Adventure Time showrunner doesn\u2019t see the finale as a happy ending"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><b>Bubblegum and Marceline have a moment. Finn and Jake save the world. But find out what Adventure Time executive producer Adam Muto said about the series finale, &#171;Come Along With Me.&#187; Spoilers ahead!<\/b><br \/>\nCartoons have experienced something of a renaissance over the last decade, which many attribute to one special series: Adventure Time. The Cartoon Network show reinvigorated the cable channel after staples like Dexter\u2019s Laboratory, The Powerpuff Girls, Ed, Edd n Eddy, and Samurai Jack had petered out and the future of its original animation was unclear.<br \/>Now, after eight years and 10 seasons on the air, the coming-of-age dramedy is over, and what a legacy it\u2019s leaving behind it: Fans of other cult favorites like Steven Universe and Gravity Falls have Adventure Time to thank for unlocking the potential of imaginative characters who adventure through worlds not bound to conventional logic; Adventure Time gave us the chance to grow alongside Finn the Human and Jake the Dog, our heroes, as they plunged into the depths of their friendly, if tragic, dystopian home.<br \/>A show with this much influence (not just aesthetically, but also with its mature, inclusive storytelling) can\u2019t fade away quietly. Even as Adventure Time \u2019s innovations became less so over the years, supplanted by the growing success of its Cartoon Network sister shows, the cartoon remains an unforgettable leader in a golden age of animation.<br \/>Just before the premiere of \u201cCome Along With Me,\u201d the one-hour special that concludes the series, we spoke to executive producer Adam Muto about Adventure Time \u2019s impact \u2014 both that of the finale as well as the show overall.<br \/>[ Warning: There are spoilers before for at least one key scene in the episode. Don\u2019t read this until you\u2019ve watched the finale!]<br \/>How did you envision ending the series? Does this episode fit into that original plan?<br \/>Adam Muto, executive producer: If [ Adventure Time] ended after season five, it would have had a very different ending. We didn\u2019t have a definite, \u201cThis is the exact story that\u2019s going to be in the end.\u201d We had images from the finale in our heads, and that was as much as you could kind of plan in advance. That last image with Finn and Jake, I had an idea of what that would mean to me.<br \/>The story itself, I think, definitely \u2014 maybe season eight, [we] kind of figured out what the shape of the finale would be. Until they told us, \u201cThis is definitely the end,\u201d you almost couldn\u2019t commit to what the story would be.<br \/>Adventure Time has gone to dark places before, but this ending feels like a happy one. Does that feel earned and appropriate?<br \/>I don\u2019t even know how happy it is, to be honest. The future version of Ooo is not that cheery of a place. You get the sense that another apocalypse has sort of happened in the meantime. That was kind of something the show was built on, too. Obviously Shermy [who appears in the episode bookends set further ahead in time] has got Finn-like qualities, and these analogies could exist.<br \/>The show kind of came out of a conflict \u2014 we kept alluding to the Great Mushroom War. We were never really gonna show that in the life of the show. [But] it made sense to have a conflict like that at the end, or at least be the backdrop. The idea of having all of characters running at each other and fighting isn\u2019t really the spirit of the show.<br \/>In the end, that conflict is diffused. [There are] so many stories that kind of end with the last stand of a world. I think it is the end, but it just keeps going, and people just keep living their lives.<br \/>What surprised you about where Adventure Time ended up from where it started \u2014 from something lighthearted to a more serious show?<br \/>I don\u2019t know if it was core, but it felt natural. Even at the beginning \u2014 especially [series creator Pendleton Ward] and Pat McHale \u2014 we talked about it being serialized.<br \/>The continuity is sort of a light continuity, and it sort of gains momentum throughout the show. I\u2019m surprised that we got to that point, because that\u2019s not where [Cartoon Network] wanted us to get to. It just kind of gained momentum.<br \/>By the end the show \u2014 it\u2019s hard to put myself outside of it \u2014 I can\u2019t be too surprised, but it also didn\u2019t feel like out of left-field. It felt like a very gradual process. It would be interesting to see what the season one finale would be.<br \/>There\u2019s also a tendency to get nostalgic, even within the show. People\u2019s memories of the show aren\u2019t even necessarily how it played out. It was never as blithe as people think it was. It had very bright moments and very introspective moments of people getting down. Those get more complex over time, because [Finn] grew up.<br \/>Are there pieces of lore that remain unresolved?<br \/>I think it\u2019s important to leave spaces to imagine, leaving those kind of ambiguous spaces. Not that we don\u2019t have an idea of what happens with certain characters afterwards. There were larger questions, I think, and those are the ones, when they\u2019re set up and baked into the show, you have some responsibility to address. What happened to every single character throughout their lives is not. Seeing everyone\u2019s lives from their birth to their death like an appendix, I don\u2019t think that\u2019s the story.<br \/>Will Simon ever be cured? That was an important one to address. Beyond that, there were so many where it\u2019s not necessarily important \u2014 where do Finn and Jake end up? What happens to them? How old do they get? Who do they marry? It\u2019s important to focus on this section.<br \/>This was Finn\u2019s childhood and on the cusp of becoming a good adult. Hopefully he\u2019s a learned a lot and become a more complete person. He doesn\u2019t even have a sword through most of the finale at all. The idea of him putting down a weapon as the way to resolve a larger conflict&#8230; this won\u2019t help in the situation. I think that was an important thing, not trying to show that.<br \/>That\u2019s also why The Lich didn\u2019t come back as a villain. His story felt like it was over. if he came back again, it would feel like Skeletor \u2014 this evil that had to be defeated over and over again. If you can always defeat something and the day will be saved, it\u2019s not as satisfying as something you can\u2019t defeat \u2014 this thing that you can\u2019t actually deal with in a direct way.<br \/>Marceline and Princess Bubblegum\u2019s relationship was one of the most meaningful parts of the show, in terms of representation. What does the positive reaction to their pairing mean to you, and how did it influence their beautiful ending?<br \/>It felt like that was another question. It is set up enough by now that it needs a conclusion to feel satisfying. We can\u2019t say what their life will be like from then on forever, but we can show where their relationship is now as opposed to where it was a couple years ago. Marceline is the adolescent forever, and Princess Bubblegum is the workaholic who doesn\u2019t have anything outside of that.<br \/>Being on Cartoon Network, alongside shows like Steven Universe, I do think that we felt like we could do more than we could have back then. Rebecca [Sugar, who created Steven Universe,] really did so much of the heavy lifting that I feel weird even talking about that too much.<br \/>It was something that is important. When it showed up in the storyboards, it made sense. You just have to do it enough so that it\u2019s not a new story, and then it will just be something that happens. Hopefully it\u2019s not important in that way. Hopefully it\u2019s not something that we even need to comment on, even.<br \/>Adventure Time has been a major part of the so-called CalArts movement that has come to define this animation generation. is that something you guys are aware of and proud of \u2014 or are you surprised by the series\u2019 influence, aesthetically?<br \/>We\u2019re constantly thinking of those elements. We want to disabuse people of that \u201cCalArts style;\u201d it means the least to all of us. It\u2019s simplifying it too much. A lot of the similarities came from having similar influences \u2014 the practicalities of animation.<br \/>To get the level of animation we wanted and pretty stories, you have to print out details. That cheap bulk head shape, that\u2019s an art trend that would show up in a couple shows, but that\u2019s always been like that.<br \/>If you look at [ Dexter\u2019s Laboratory] and The Powerpuff Girls &#8230; it seems like a way to over-simplify and criticize without adding much. That\u2019s why we get rankled by that term: You over simplify and make them very pat.<br \/>There is a shared sensibility of trying to be genuine and moments that feel emotionally truthful and characters that feel like they\u2019re representing what\u2019s real \u2014 recognizable types instead of stock characters. [That\u2019s] something these creators are pushing more for. That\u2019s important more for us.<br \/>\u201cWhy are cartoon characters simple?\u201d Well, why do \u201920s characters look similar? We\u2019re trying to do something on a TV budget, so you have to embrace the simplicity sometimes.<br \/>Adventure Time: The Final Seasons DVD is available now<\/p>\n<div id=\"td_post_ranks_tmp\" class=\"td-post-comments\" style=\"vertical-align: middle;display:none;\">\n<div style=\"float: left;\">Similarity rank: 1.1<\/div>\n<div style=\"float: left; padding-left: 10px;\">Sentiment rank: 0.8<\/div>\n<div style=\"float: left;\"><img width=\"20px\" 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