DW spoke with Lucie Veith, one of the many individuals affected by the Germany’s ruling on a third gender option. While applauding the overdue verdict,…
DW spoke with Lucie Veith, one of the many individuals affected by the Germany’s ruling on a third gender option. While applauding the overdue verdict, the intersex activist questioned whether labels are even necessary.
Lucie Veith: Yes, because the old formulation had always been strange. Every person has a gender, and a way of identifying themselves. The fact that this had previously not been reflected in the law was a scandal. So in that sense, the verdict is a big step in terms of human rights, because now there will have to be very clear regulations. Still, it’s sad that it has taken so long, and that it had to go all the way to the Federal Constitutional Court.
Intersex people are often assigned to a gender, namely male or female, even thoughtheir bodies don’t strictly conform to either norm. Since 2013, these people have been able to apply for a correction to their registered sex, but that has left them without a formal gender identity. And yet, everybody has a gender, and every person should be able to have that recognized. If I’m not male or female, then I’m something else. And that something else needs to be incorporated into our legal framework.
That will now be up for negotiation. Personally, I think that we need to consider whether we even need these categories. Doesn’t everyone know what they are? Do we really need these labels? But that’s a discussion for society as a whole.
Other countries are further along — countries such as Nepal or Argentina. There, for example, people just have to sign an affidavit as to their gender identity, and then it’s official.
There needs to be a regulation to protect intersex children from genital mutilation. It’s something that often gets forgotten, but 95 percent of all intersex people are either subjected to genital mutilation, or their development is subject to manipulation, all so that society can continue to believe that there are only two genders. This is, of course, ridiculous. Nature is much more diverse than that.
My name is Lucie Veith. You can just ask me, and that’s what I’d do when talking to any other person. I don’t need any allocation to the male or the female. If you are one of the privileged people who see themselves as male or female, then congratulations. I’m not part of that group. But I’m a human being with the same rights as you.
