Former officials from the Obama and George W. Bush administrations are pouring cold water on the idea that President Trump ’s interpreter from the summit…
Former officials from the Obama and George W. Bush administrations are pouring cold water on the idea that President Trump ’s interpreter from the summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin should appear before Congress.
While multiple former Obama officials say they understand the desire to talk to one of the only people in the room with Trump and Putin, several argued it would set a dangerous precedent.
“For the same reasons why we need to protect our own diplomats, there is a real concern about having translators be subject to subpoenas,” said David Mortlock, director of international economic affairs at the White House National Security Council (NSC) under Obama.
But he said subpoenaing an interpreter is a bridge too far, and would prevent presidents from speaking freely.
“They’re at the center of diplomatic relationships and it raises concerns about whether you can truly have diplomatic communications,” he said.
Ben Chang, who served as an NSC official under Obama, said that while interpreters have “seen or heard a ton” they ultimately serve as a “vessel” to guide and channel the president’s thoughts and ideas.
He argued that Congress should get to the bottom of the summit, but he thinks lawmakers instead need to subpoena officials such as Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and national security adviser John Bolton.
The possibility that Trump summit interpreter Marina Gross will appear before Congress is remote for now given GOP control of both chambers of Congress.
Democrats were blocked Thursday when Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee rejected a motion to subpoena the interpreter.
Tony Fratto, who served as a White House deputy press secretary under former President George W. Bush, called it a “fruitless effort.”
“The law is clear. It would be bonkers to think this conversation doesn’t fall under executive privilege,” said Fratto, who frequently disagrees with Trump’s rhetoric and actions. “That’s not their job and the constitution is pretty clear on that.”
Richard Fontaine, who served as a foreign policy adviser to Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and also served at the NSC under Bush, also dismissed the suggestion.
“I feel their pain, but I don’t think forcing the translator of the president to testify what she heard will be successful,” Fontaine told The Hill, calling it “bad practice.”
“People on the Hill seem to have ever short historical perspective, but at some point a Democrat will have a one-on-one with a leader or take a walk in the park with a leader and do you really want that?” he said. “I know they want this, but I don’t know that they want that.”
Democrats say the circumstances surrounding the Trump-Putin summit are exceptional, and justify the step of having lawmakers talk to Trump’s interpreter.
Trump and Putin met with just their interpreters before aides later joined larger sessions.
The White House has been engulfed in controversy since the summit because of Trump’s remarks casting doubt on Russia’s involvement in the 2016 election. Trump also criticized special counsel Robert Mueller ’s investigation and put the blame on the U. S.-Russian relationship on that probe and past U. S. governments — not Moscow.
Republicans and Democrats alike have slammed the performance, and Trump has sought to walk back his comments doubting U. S. intelligence on Russia’s election interference.
The controversy has also been colored by continued speculation about whether Putin has leverage on Trump.
“I think these are pretty extraordinary circumstances,” said Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee. “It is not something I would recommend as an ordinary remedy in usual course of business, but I would hope that we would never again see a circumstance where the president of the United States would say I want to meet alone with my foreign adversary.”
Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats conceded on Thursday that he does not know what happened during the meeting between the two leaders, adding that there is also a “risk” that the Russians recorded their exchange.
“I think at the end of the day, the sad reality is we will never know with a degree of precision… what happened in that meeting,” said Aaron David Miller, a distinguished fellow at the Woodrow Wilson Center.
Ellen Tauscher, who served as under secretary of state for arms control and international security under Obama, said Congress should absolutely pursue a deposition from Gross.
“This a very unfortunate place to be, but there’s so much smoke blowing in our faces,” she said.
Tauscher noted that even if the tables were turned and a State Department interpreter was being interviewed by a GOP Congress under Obama, the circumstances would still be different because Trump threw out the country’s diplomatic playbook while Obama abided by it.
Republicans, however, see Democrats as being hypocritical and playing a political game.
Schiff’s motion to subpoena the interpreter on Thursday visibly irritated House Republicans, who felt it was a distraction during a hearing on the national security threats posed by China.
Conservatives contend that executive privilege shields a president’s interpreter from reporting to Congress, while warning that subpoenaing her would create a dangerous precedent that could come back to haunt future presidents of either party.
And a number of experts agree with them.
“The president would be fully within his authority to claim executive privilege in this case,” said Mark Rozell, dean of George Mason University’s school of public policy.
“It is likely that the two heads of state had discussions about some sensitive issues with national and international security implications and it would not be reasonable to expect an interpreter to know which topics require confidentiality,” added Rozell, who has authored a book on executive privilege.
Rep. Brad Wenstrup, a Republican who serves on the Intelligence Committee with Schiff, pointed to a private conversation that President Obama had with then-Russian President Dmitry Medvedev on the sidelines of a NATO summit.
“This is my last election. After my election, I have more flexibility,” Obama was heard saying to the Russian leader on a hot mic at the 2012 meeting.
Rep. Tom Rooney (R-Fla.) said if interpreters are asked to testify, U.
